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  • Aug. 29th, 2008 at 11:22 AM
GRCATL!
MCCAIN  must  really think women are stupid.

I was wondering what he was going to do as reaction to the "more of the same" rhetoric
going about from the Dems. Here it is. Sort of.
I think the R's might have gotten a little jealous of the Dem's out-legacy-ing
them w/ a woman AND a man of color in their run.Picking someone who was elected in 2006...yeah, there's NO evidence of a scramble there ("hey, quickly, get a minority or a woman on our ticket. We need a "first," too!") or trying to force undecideds to pick between racial fear or gender fear.

EDIT: But hey, she's a FEMINIST as in, let's appropriate that word:
(from wikipedia entry on Feminist For Life)

The president of the "non-sectarian, non-partisan" Feminists For Life, Serrin Foster, describes the organization as opposed to all forms of abortion, including cases of rape, incest, birth defects, or to preserve the mother's health or life as broadly defined in the Supreme Court's Doe v. Bolton decision.[5] FFL believes that basic human rights, including the right to life, start at conception (FFL defined as the first formation of a human zygote).[6]

On its website and in its in-house publication American Feminist, FFL describes its broader vision as opposition to all forms of violence, considered as "inconsistent with the core feminist principles of justice, nonviolence and nondiscrimination"[7] including the death penalty,[8] assisted suicide,[8] euthanasia,[9] infanticide,[10] and child abuse.[11] FFL does not take an official stance on contraception[12] but they do seek a traditional feminist goal of equality in the workplace.[13]


I only hope this cuntry country doesn't see itself in the stupid mirror MCSame is holding up.

Part of what I loved about last night was the texture of it.Voices of actual people mixed with politicians.
Obama encouraging us to put down our cynicism (which MCsame just made harder to do).
He is so obviously the people's candidate.Not talking down to them.The thing about the R party is their transparent distrust  of the people.They're so patronizing and arrogant to the opinions and voices of the people and they play the card game of fears (racial, gendered, xeno).

So I feel like the vote is binarized between the truth and more lies, illusions, and mirrors.
Fact versus fiction.
And I'm hoping it doesn't come down to "the truth? you can't handle the truth!")

Comments

[info]dj_muse wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 03:32 pm (UTC)
Hey! Here's a chick - she doesn't have a dick - vote for her! We know you don't care about the issues Hillary Clinton supported (or is on the opposing side), so all's fine, right?

Love, John McCain.

I also love the speculation about "oh, they can't attack her too hard on her lack of experience (three years, all in state politics) because they don't want to be seen as being too mean (because she's a pretty girl, we wouldn't want to make her cry). Not that those considerations ever stopped Republicans for ripping into Hillary Clinton all those years.
[info]drama_queen3750 wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)
My thoughts exactly
[info]tenmazero wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 03:42 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately our nation's track record of being able to see through Republican BS is not a stellar one. Sadly, this is going to be even more fodder for these PUMA idiots to ignore Hillary Clinton's request and support McCain. It kind of reinforces my thoughts during the primaries... "...wait, these people are Democrats?"
[info]ameyeforever wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 03:58 pm (UTC)
I don't know...I think McCain is running a better campaign than Obama at this point.

A young, female maverick does a lot to strengthen McCain's ticket and indicates where he intends to take this country if he wins.

Let's not forget that, before McCain had to court the Bush family in order to run this year, he was actually quite progressive. He was Bush's biggest critic (way more than, say, Biden). The selection of another "maverick" shows us that, as president, McCain may come back to his old style of politics.
[info]brags2bitches wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 04:27 pm (UTC)
If the Obama campaign is smart they will need to focus heavily on how old McCain is and highlight the real possibility that this "maverick" may end up leading the country.

That's a scary idea to me.
[info]nerak_g wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
I was rooting for him through the primaries for GW2.
I even met the man and shook his hand, heard him speak and he gave a great spiel.
I used to think he was a fine alternative.That, given the Dem candidate, I may even have voted for him.
But the R's lost me with GW2.And then McCain's voting record became more of the MCsame and he really lost my respect then.Even after becoming the chump and the guy the Bush Admin made jokes about, he still followed in line with them.
8 years ago, different story.
Talk about flip flop.
[info]ameyeforever wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 04:52 pm (UTC)
Obama also has a frightening record of shifting right in order to situate himself for a run at the presidency. Both McCain and Obama have abandoned their primary positions that made them known as progressives.

An interesting fact: In the past 2 years, Obama has voted in support of Bush's positions between 40 and 50 percent of the time. That's not "change," either.
[info]nerak_g wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 05:10 pm (UTC)
Although the ratio is better than M's 90%
Analysts also note that every candidate shifts toward elections, which goes back, in part, to campaign finance reform.
[info]ameyeforever wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 05:49 pm (UTC)
Which is exactly why I'm wondering if a McCain presidency would be better for our country than an Obama presidency (in the long run).

McCain has been one of the biggest supporters of campaign finance reform for decades. Palin has already established herself as an ethics reformer. That administration could potentially get a lot of corporate money out of politics and clean up our democracy, which is probably the most pressing issue facing our nation.
[info]moment_of_me wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 05:44 pm (UTC)
I just don't get it. If you want a woman, there are lots of "smart" Republican women. This woman? All she has is a maverick attitude and a "common folk" appearance. What little I've been able to find out isn't trust-inspiring. I'm not sure she can lead anything. And has she ever even set foot in D.C.? Where's her experience? I'm not sure Salmon fishing makes her a viable candidate. (Okay the last bit was sarcastic. But, yeah. You know what I mean.) The say Obama is inexperienced? That's one of their stick horses. WTF is up with this candidate? The fact that she is a woman should have absolutely NOTHING to do with the choice. Instead, it feels like it had EVERYTHING to do with it. UGh.
[info]ameyeforever wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 05:51 pm (UTC)
She's already come out as a tough ethics reformer. It's important for McCain to remind people that he's a reformer.

& whether not it's manipulative to pick a woman because she's a woman--it means that no matter who wins this election, there will be a woman or minority in the White House. That's a positive, period.
[info]moment_of_me wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 06:11 pm (UTC)
I agree that it's a step in the right direction. BUT if he picked her JUST because of her gender (which is what it feels like) then it totally negates the choice in my book. Don't choose a candidate because of gender or color. Make it a non-choice. Choose the candidate the benefits the country and the people, the most. Don't see gender or color, see a person and ideas.
[info]nerak_g wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
creeptastic
Check this out.She's a part of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_for_Life

Now, I'm a Feminist for life, but with a different meaning in the linguistic sense.the one that thinks same sex couples should be allowed to marry.That if you need an abortion, you should be able to have one safely instead of with comet and hangers....
[info]moment_of_me wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)
Re: creeptastic
Yep. I saw that. Scarier than Scrappy Doo on crack.
[info]goodbadgirl wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 07:02 pm (UTC)
Re: creeptastic
"Now, I'm a Feminist for life, but with a different meaning in the linguistic sense.the one that thinks same sex couples should be allowed to marry.That if you need an abortion, you should be able to have one safely instead of with comet and hangers...."


:) :)

Isn't Patricia Heaton (the Mom from that show Everyone Loves Raymond,) a feminist for life? I seem to remember her talking about it like she wanted people to think it made sense.
[info]goodbadgirl wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 07:00 pm (UTC)
Well, she's an "ethics reformer" who is currently under investigation for abuse of power as governor. I can't imagine the dems neglecting to point that out.

I would also argue that ending the costly, disastrous and illegal war in Iraq is the most pressing issue facing our nation. If not that then finding sustainable energy resources, improving our reputation on the global stage, health care reform, education reform - they're all at least as important as campaign finance reform - and McCain can't really compete on any of those issues - not even with a pretty lady by his side.
[info]ameyeforever wrote:
Aug. 30th, 2008 06:55 pm (UTC)
Neither major party candidate is dedicated to ending the war immediately. Neither major party candidate is dedicated to meaningful healthcare reform.

And the reason has to do with all the special interests money flowing into both candidates' campaigns. Until we have meaningful campaign finance reform, we will not elect a progressive presidential candidate who is able to work for peace & justice. Thus, in the long run, I maintain that campaign finance reform is the most pressing issue.
[info]nobleds wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2008 07:41 pm (UTC)
I agree that if McCain made his pick to court Hillary supporters then all he has done is insult them and their intelligence; as if the only reason they were supporting her was because she was a woman, not because of her politics or even her intelligence or personality.

He totally overlooked the entire field of great to good republican women including Snow, Collins, Hutchison and even Dole, so he has possibly isulted republican women as well.

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